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Greg Sugg
Club Site Director
(12/23/03 3:01 pm)
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Big Sur New Years Trip
Some of us are planning a camping and flying trip to Big Sur for the New Years holiday. This will depend on the weather of course but should be fun. I am planning to go down on the afternoon of Jan. 31st. and return on Dec. 3rd.

A group from the Mother Lode Sky Riders is planning to go there too. Why not party at Big Sur this New Years holiday?

See you there,

Greg

Hangfly
Club Secretary
(12/23/03 3:43 pm)
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BIG Sur
Greg,
I would love to ride down with you but cannot get that much time off work. I have to be back on January 5th. Are you planning on working all of January to be able to afford 10 months off?
Hangfly:b
PS Don't edit your post or mine won't make sence.:hat

Greg Sugg
Club Site Director
(12/23/03 4:30 pm)
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Re: BIG Sur
Thank you Charley,

I think it reads more accurately this way:

I am planning to go down on the afternoon of Dec. 31st. and return on Jan. 3rd.

Greg

Ernie Camacho
Club President
(12/24/03 1:16 pm)
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Re: BIG Sur
I too, plan on driving down on Wed., 12/31. I'll leave as early as I can so that I'll be able to spend a little time in camp before it gets dark at 5PM.

I'll be towing my trailer.

And, I plan on returning home on Sun., 1/4 or Mon., 1/5, depending on what transpires. Of course I could come home on Sat. 1/3, when Greg leaves, too. I suppose it all depends on the weather and the karma.

I'm open for passengers!

Greg Sugg
Club Site Director
(12/26/03 11:27 am)
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Re: BIG Sur
I may stay for Sunday too. Remember, as Shannon said in an earlier post about Big Sur, don't let a little rain stop you. It gets good pre and post frontal.

Ernie Camacho
Club President
(12/26/03 12:43 pm)
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Re: BIG Sur
Do you mean that we might actually be able to go UP?

How cool would THAT be?!

Donna Matthias
Club VP
(12/27/03 1:12 pm)
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Re: BIG Sur
Hey Everyone,

Ernie and I were just talking and I'm planning on going. Greg, we were talking about doing a roast, potatoes and veg. meal in the dutch oven. A little red wine, good food and great company. Want to join us for dinner? It would be great fun. Anyone else want to go????

~Donna

PS: Shannon, is Cheryl coming?

Greg Sugg
Club Site Director
(12/28/03 2:56 pm)
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Yes Sur, count on me for dinner
Donna, a roast (D.O. no doubt) sounds fine. Let me know what to contribute.

And, does anyone know if there are hot showers available?

Donna Matthias
Club VP
(1/5/04 8:52 am)
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Re: New Years at Big Sur
What great fun! I will let Ernie & Greg post their flying stories. But just wanted to say we had a GREAT time with GREAT people. A little rain never hurt anyone. It's going to be a good year ;) .

~Donna

skymonster
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(1/5/04 8:05 pm)
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If you show up, you WILL FLY
Happy New Year !
Once again Big Sur 2003 provided me with one of my most special memories. A handful of my 'para' friends were there for a couple of days providing laughter and craziness. They had to leave early for other commitments and were wondering 'what would I do' after they left. Eric, Donna, Ernie, Gregg, Shannon, Cheryl, and other hanglider pilots kept me flying and laughing until my sides hurt.
Whalewatching, watching hangliders fly with eagles, catching a fox checking out my tent, biking, hiking, Luna being teased by a seal in the ocean, photographing the overwintering Monarchs, waking to the camp owl hooting at dawn, and beautiful sunset dinners at the beach.
Yes even having to 'drive for hangliders', loosing my breakfast after the windy ride to Wildcattle, the racoons ripping apart my camp leaving their muddy paw prints all over, a wild cat crying outside my tent for hours, and the black crows stealing my lunch whenever I turned around, still makes me smile.
As the wind whipped and the rain poured down it created a good laugh for everyone watching the kids and me try to build a tarp roof over my fire to keep it from drowning. After they stopped laughing Eric climbed the tree to get the ropes up, Ernie, Gregg and Donna gave up their nice dry camps to come help.... thank you.
Cheryl's birthday celebration was prefect for the last nite together. A buffet of food brought by everyone, a birthday cake made by Erinie out of half potatoes turned upside down with candles, a 'few' beverages,
a duet by Shannon and Cheryl on guitars was the highlight of dinner, soon to be joined in by the rest of the 'family band'. A moonlit walk to the cliffs where we enjoyed the almost full moon. There seemed to be more than one moon by the end of the nite... maybe the tequila... maybe not... I'll never tell.
It was a long drive home, not because of the 9 hours, but because the moon, she kept popping out from behind the clouds taunting me that I could still be back curled up under the stars listening to the crashing of the waves lit up by her.
Yet the smile on my face was still there, thinking that it will only be a year before "New Years Celebration at Big Sur" 2004.
Oh yeah!.... the flying was great too.

Shannon
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(1/7/04 2:58 pm)
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P.V.
I would like to thank all of you that made Cheryls birthday a special one. Donna, Ernie, Greg, Liz,Eric,John and Carl . It was a great party,I did not know there were three sides to the moon.I have been going to P.V. for New Years for around 15 years and it seems everone has a great time. Pacific Valley is a great place to reflect on the old and bring in the new,flying there is always a treat. To be with friends and fly and party how good does it get? Happy New to all. Shannon

Ernie Camacho
Club President
(1/7/04 3:45 pm)
24.5.57.229
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Re: P.V.
I've posted some photos that were taken with my camera. They're at:
http://www.sonomawings.com/photo/2004/photos.htm

I know that others took photos too, and as I get copies from them, I'll add to the "album" of this trip.

I'll wait for Gregs report on the trip, then I'll add what I can.

I will say now that in spite of the rain, this was the most fun I've had at Big Sur. And, I found some thermals too!

Ernie

hmmmmbrd
Unregistered User
(1/7/04 4:09 pm)
69.19.151.11
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pacific valley
This note is to all my friends that went to P.V.
thanks for the great memories and all the good times at New Years. Its one of the best vacations Ive had. Thanks again for making my birthday so memorable. My great bday cake, Ill never forget that. Great food and preparation from you all. Liz, Eric, Donna, Ernie and Greg it was great bringing on the New Year with you all. Oh we cant forget our new friends from Georgia, Carl and John.
Your friend, Cheryl

Lori Allen
Totally Kewl Hangchick
(1/7/04 7:00 pm)
67.166.127.180
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Carl?
That looks like Carl from Lookout Mountain Flight Park. Is he a California dude now?

Lori

thermalmaniac
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(1/7/04 7:06 pm)
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Re: Carl?
That's the Carl you're thinking of, he drove out west to visit relatives and fly, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him and John come out from Georgia again next year.

Eric Hinrichs
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(1/7/04 7:23 pm)
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Trip Photos
Those are some great pictures you guys took, thanks for posting them, and I'm looking forward to seeing some of Shannon's and Greg's. What a beautiful place to start the new year, with a wonderful group of people, and lots of memorable times in the air and on the ground.

Cheers:beer

-Eric

Greg Sugg
Club Site Director
(1/8/04 5:37 pm)
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New Years at the beach
As they've all said, the New Years camping and flying trip to Plaskett Creek campground was just great. We had good people, good flying, great scenery, and of course, a great time. On the trip down I called Ernie and Donna who told me that the Coast Hwy was closed a few miles north of Plaskett Creek due to a slide, so we decided to go to King City on Hwy 101 and then over the mountains via Hunter-Liggett army base. It was a beautiful route I'd never seen. There were lots of deer and elk on the base.

Later, driving down Coast Hwy to the camp, I stopped at the LZ in time to talk with Cheryl and see Eric and John land. Then on to set up camp. Ernie and Donna arrived a little later and after setting up the tent trailer began a Duch oven roast. We had a feast that night which was New Years eve. Shortly before midnight a contingent set out for Sand Dollar beach where we ushered in the New Year with surf, fireworks, and various other things.

Rain started early New Years day and continued most of the day. The tent trailers were particularly handy even with a leak or two. A couple of nights later our troop ambulated out onto the rocky point in the nearly full moon lit atmosphere where we enjoied comradory, embibements, and even more moons. It was a great place to be: crisp night air, exceptional lighting, crashing surg, and absolutely no traffic on the highway due to the slide.

On the morning of Jan. 2nd. Shannon and the others were up early and headed off to Wild Cattle launch for an early flight. Ernie, Donna, and I had a leisurely breakfast before loading up for the drive up. We got to launch just as Carl and John were taking off. Ernie and I set up quickly, and just as we got our harnesses on it started to rain. Then it started to dump. Donna was wounderful of course, and braved the rain to assist us however we needed. We waited it out for about 45 minutes until it all stopped and cleared up.

We pushed Ernie off first to find soarable conditions out front on the big knob. Then Donna saw to it that I got into the air safely. As I was flying out to join him, I noticed my glider was flying like crap. It kept dropping the nose. I told Ernie that something was not right. Luckily, the lift was good enough to keep me up in spite of my glider. It turned out to be all that water on and inside of my wing. If I had had to land right away, it would have been really ugly; my stall speed was around 30 mph. Gradually the glider dried out and started to fly normally. Eventually I flew out over the ocean and landed at the LZ. Ernie wanted more, and flew down to the ridge at the campground and mixed it up for another half hour or so.

The next day, Saturday, we took Liz Hearn with us to a little knob launch directly up behind the campground. On the way up I could see white caps out on the ocean stopping about a mile off shore. It looked much like shear conditions at Funston. Eric, Carl, and John were just about set up when we arrived and were soon off into good soaring conditions. The wind continued to increase, and Liz decided that it was a little too breezy to risk the long glide out to the LZ. She and Donna assisted us. I went first and had to wait for a lull in the wind to launch into the crossing wind from adversely sloping ground.

It was an immediate elevator ride up through textured air until I got upwind to the ridge where it got smooth. We flew as long as we cared to in idiot air. Thermals were weak, but strings of lift existed. If I flew into sink, I just had to go somewhere else to find lift. Eventually I left the mountains and flew out to land climbing gently the whole way. I had to search for some down air; what a problem. Eventually, I found some 600 down and cored it to about 400 off the mesa. When I flew in across the LZ I started to climb near the highway. It was somewhat tourbulent near the ground, but landing was not a big problem.

The day was extremely clear and beautiful. Donna met us at the LZ where Shannon, Cheryl, John, Carl, Eric, Liz, Ernie, Donna, and I all celebrated, beered, and bragged.

On this trip we saw swarms of monarch butterflies, lots of red tails, a golden eagle, elk, deer, racoons, a linx, and I'll let Ernie tell about his flying buddy.

Thanks to all for a great time.

Edited by: Greg Sugg at: 1/8/04 5:45 pm
John Freitas
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(1/9/04 10:54 am)
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big sur trip
Just wanted to say thanks to all of you for sharing your good times, food and beer. What a fantastic site to fly and a great group of folks to be "stuck" on the other side of a rock slide with, not to mention share the sky.

I think I speak for Carl as well when I say we really enjoyed ourselves and the company there at Plaskett Creek camp this past New Year's Eve week-end.

Looking forward to flying with y'all again.

Aloha, John Freitas
email: johnefreitas@earthlink.net

Ernie Camacho
Club President
(1/10/04 12:01 pm)
24.5.57.229
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The rest of the story...

The 2nd day of the new year looked promising. After a day of rain, we could see blue sky, but there were clouds hanging onto the higher ridges. Shannon said that we should get up to launch early, before conditions changed. Still being in holiday mode, Greg, Donna, and I took our time. After a hearty bacon-and-eggs breakfast, we headed up to Wild Cattle around 11AM.

As we got to launch, the Georgia boys, Carl and John, were just taking off. The cloud cover was high enough that it looked good for us too. But, by the time Greg and I had set up our gliders, and I was walking mine to launch, the rain came, along with a lowered cloud level, completely encasing us. After standing on launch with my glider as my umbrella, for fifteen minutes or so, I gave up, backed away, and we sat in the truck for maybe an hour.

Eventually we got into the air, and it was good. I was able to find ridge lift out on the front ridge, and every now and then a little thermal would let me make a few 360's. Greg and I went back and forth on the short section of ridge that could sustain us. At one point I hooked a nice thermal that took me up to the cloud layer. I told Greg about it but unfortunately he was further south, down the front ridge, and couldn't make it back and into the lift.

As Greg headed out to fritter away his altitude over the Ranger Station LZ, I took my altitude and worked my way south along the highway, jumping from ridge to ridge, until I was on Plaskett Ridge, above the campground. The westerly flow was strong enough to keep me up, so I hung out, watching Greg land. I was now the only pilot left in the air.

There's another ridge just to the south of the one I was on, the ridge with the dirt road going up to the Knob an Plaskett Crk. launches. For a change of pace, I decided to go over to it and see if I could find something to go up in. As I was crossing the gap, I caught sight of something coming toward me. At first I thought it was a hang glider, but then realized it was a large bird. Must be a buzzard. There were a lot of redtails flying, but I hadn't seen any vultures yet. As I looked at it, I thought it was a really big buzzard. Then I caught a flash of red - its bald head? We were going to cross paths, with the buzzard crossing in front of me on the way to the ridge I'd just left. As it came closer, I realized that the patch of red was a plastic tag attached to its left wing - a California Condor! How cool! I continuted on to the ridge, made a couple of passes, found nothing remarkable, and decided to follow the condor.

So, back across the gap I went, keeping an eye on the condor. It got to Plaskett Ridge, then followed the ridge up, looking for lift. As I got to the ridge and turned right to follow, I noticed the condor turning - in lift. Nice! I headed for the thermal and started a 360, counter to the way the condor was turning. I didn't have enough altitude to clear the ridge so I reversed my turn, found a bit of that lift, and followed the condor around the circle. I caught a glimpse of something down low - a redtail was joining us. For about half a circle, the three of us - hang glider, redtail, and condor - were sharing a thermal. Then the redtail continued south, and I couldn't maintain clearance above the ridge so I left the condor and headed out to where I could get some mechanical ridge lift.

A short while later, I decided I'd had enough fun, and the gang was all in the LZ, so I headed out to land. My approach was smooth as silk and I had a fine, stand-up landing. What a way to start the year! In over 25 years of flying at Big Sur (maybe a dozen trips), I'd never gone up before. They'd all been sled rides. So, my first flight of the year was also the first flight where I worked a thermal at Big Sur, and the first time I'd flown (or even seen) a California Condor. And this flight of firsts was capped with a good clean landing (new year's resolution: good landings!).

As has been mentioned by others, the entire trip, from New Year's Eve on Wednesday, to the day we left, Sunday, was filled with good fellowship, and good times, in spite of wet and cold. I can safely say that this was my best trip to Big Sur, ever, and it was primarily due to a great group of fun-loving folks!

The year has gotten off to a great start. This is only the beginning!

Ernie Camacho

Ernie Camacho
Club President
(1/10/04 12:13 pm)
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about that bird...
I know that there are a lot of people that are very concerned about the welfare of the California Condor. It's been a difficult endeavor getting them back into the wild in sufficient numbers, and any interference with them is severely frowned upon.

When I encountered this condor, I was very mindful of that, and I wanted to make sure that I didn't do anything to spook this fellow.

As we crossed paths, I watched for any sign that it might not like me being there. I saw nothing. It's as if it didn't even notice me, although I did see it looking at me at one point. It didn't change its path at all.

And then, as I followed it to that thermal and joined it, it appeared that I was accepted as just another bird. The redtail felt the same way, noticing me, and adjusting its position in the circle, but neither bird seemed concerned to have such a big "bird" near them.

That made me glad, because I surely wouldn't want to disturb my feathered friends, and because I'd like to fly with them again someday.

And in case you're wondering, I tried, but couldn't make out the number on the condor's tag.

Ernie

Edited by: Ernie Camacho at: 1/10/04 12:14 pm
Ernie Camacho
Club President
(1/10/04 2:58 pm)
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more photos
I've added a few more photos to the trip album. Donna took these.

I'll add more photos as I get them.Shannon took photos while flying, and others took photos too.

Big Sur Album

Ernie Camacho
Club President
(1/11/04 8:51 pm)
24.5.57.229
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and...
There's a couple of items I forgot to mention.

My second flight of the year, on Saturday, was almost exactly the same length - 1 hr., 6 min. - as the first flight on Friday. Only the seconds were different.

And on the way out through Hunter-Liggett, we also say a coyote and lots of ground squirrels. Add that to the elk and bobcat, and there's lots of animals in the area. I don't remember there being elk there in '69, when I lived there.

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